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  Moving to Warwick Video incl. Morning Worship

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new video is up about the commencement of moving to warwick.shawn bartlett tells the viewers that jehovah has said, through the governing body, ‘it’s time to move out of brooklyn.

  ‘ then helper robert lucciona says ‘ the governing body, these brothers, as soon as they see god’s direction, they just move, it doesn’t matter if it is long held, cherished ideas, this is the way it has to be done, as soon as they see jehovahs direction.

  he just kept nudging imperfect humans, he knew where he wanted us and then we end up where we are supposed to be.

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  Half banana

  No indeed it's true, "they don't deserve such a wonderful place to live in"...they should leave immediately.
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  Selloff Hinted At Assembly

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

  this statement has everyone talking.

  i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

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  Half banana

  What is happening is how you would expect the decline of the Watchtower organisation to begin.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  Half banana

  'Religious' or theist ex-Jws might conclude that JWs are not Christian because if they were to admit that to be true, then why would they be leaving?

  Surely it is those who have seen through the scam of religious belief who can more accurately and dispassionately classify Watchtower beliefs in a Christian context.
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  141st Gilead Gradution Talks 1st Part

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these grads.

  are a special people indeed.

  how on earth they put up with all this indoctrination is beyond me, months of intense brainwashing.

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  Half banana

  Baldeagle, I do think that the statement telling JWs to obey, "whether the instructions make sense or not," is a transparent cult manoeuvre to permit the leadership to mobilise the followers to do unpleasant or difficult things without the rank and file questioning it.

  It also has the effect of giving authority to the governing body by endowing it with a sense of divine importance to what is merely an instruction, which is just what the followers are looking for.

  The gb cultivate their flock to respond like Pavlov's dogs; salivation is not sinister but blind obedience to the JW org is.
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  141st Gilead Gradution Talks 1st Part

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these grads.

  are a special people indeed.

  how on earth they put up with all this indoctrination is beyond me, months of intense brainwashing.

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  Half banana

  Imagine:

  Three million people traipsing the Sinai wilderness being led by a cloud during the day and a pillar of fire at night.

  It never happened nor could it! You believe such a thing happened only if you are less than four years old. The whole of Watchtower teaching is fantasy fiction...........but it's good enough for the gb bozos to quote and base their life on it and try and force others to do so as well.

  Message from Jehovah's Witness's cult HQ: Don't think... OBEY!
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  The Debate Is Over...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified.

  countless books have been written going into great detail.

  this has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that jesus never existed.

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  Half banana

  Well thank you Rogue for pointing this out; that Jesus is the first accredited fictional character to actually come to life and start breathing. Astounding news!

  Surely if it is written in the hallowed columns of “Awake” magazine, simply put: it must be the definitive last word on the subject...however long or short the explanation.

  (Alternatively is it possible that it's just a teensy piece of thoughtless stale rehash of baseless propaganda cranked out from the Watchtower sausage machine?)

  I wonder?
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  Struggling a bit, guess it's to be expected...........

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  throughout this process since my wife and i disassociated just over a year ago i've been pretty positive.

  focusing on my new life, new friends, having fun, and living a good life.

  it's been great.

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  Half banana

  Don't despair you've only been out one year! It truly takes a while to let go those stupid boundaries and mental prompts implanted during years of Watchtower brainwashing.

  For the moment do keep questioning why you are doing things and more and more times it will be for a sensible purpose. You will refine your own viewpoint along with the needs of the family and it will have nothing to do with the JWorg.

  I think that having relied on JW thinking tends to suppress parts of our real self and those will re-emerge as time goes on. I think with conscious effort the old thought patterns will fade completely and you can rebuild an even more positive, wholesome, balanced and outward looking Dubstepped.
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  Is Watchtower now loosening the bedroom rules?

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was at my assembly when this was discussed last week.

  of course i hadn't prepared and i heard "no rules about limits", or at least i thought i did.. here's the direct quote from the watchtower study article.. "although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

  the watchtower (study edition) august 2016 : making christian marriage a success, paragraph 8.. what say you?.

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  Half banana

  Keep counting your money and stop thinking about people's sex lives you meddling old biddies in the governing body.
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  Do as I say, not as I do

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  and so it has come out that shami chakrabarti sent her son first to a prep school then on to prestigious dulwich college.

  both institutions feature entrance exams and fees (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3839975/shami-chakrabarti-embroiled-new-education-row-emerges-sent-son-18-000-prep-school.html).

  she joins other people of the left who oppose grammar schools but sent their own sprogs to selective, exclusive schools: polly toynbee, seumus milne, diane abbot and harriet harman.

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  Half banana

  If nothing else they value education as a prerequisite for a fulfilling life but hypocrisy is inexcusable. The politician speaks for the poor but acts like the privileged because privileged they are!

  Even the political left know that society is best served by good education. Eighty years ago it was the public school* intellectuals who supported communism until the disenchantment came with Stalin.

  *Note for those in north America; the use of 'public school' here in Britain perversely means 'private school' (that is public or fee charging school as opposed to the free of charge state school).
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  Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

  the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

  one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

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  Half banana

  "Millions now living may/will never die"

  Pricks up ears, thinks: "What; never die?" I would like to know about this...Goes to meeting and finds hundreds of other punters duped into thinking the same way...

  It says it in the "Sacred revealed word of God; the Holy Bible written by the author who never lies!" The speaker said so, so hell! it must be true...

  ...............Or is it just the spiel of the snake oil salesman?

  Surely this is the whole JW story; the lure of everlasting life in paradise, join the culture of blind obedience followed up by crippling social penalties if you dare to change your mind.

  It was just the scam message from a Bible-cult folks................ heartily congratulate yourself if you have woken up and escaped!